Or listen here: https://www.nica-institute.com/nicast-episode-6-wicked-problems/
The sixth episode of the NICAst podcast features a conversation with Ohad Ben Shimon and Chris Julien about starting from the middle, alternative modalities for writing and doing research, and engaging with “wicked problems”. The conversation between Pepita Hesselberth, Joost De Bloois, Ohad Ben Shimon and Chris Julien deals with a variety of topics including, but not limited to: